[16:43] lupine_85: if a company is obliged to replace a failed device within the 2 year period, are they allowed to take into account the deppreciation of said device?
[16:43] vi__: nope
[16:44] of course not
[16:44] the EU legislation states they have to bring the product back into conformity
[16:44] only insurance companies do and I am not sure if that is legal either
[16:44] they can do that with a repair or by replacing the whole thing or by giving you the cash
[16:44] so they have to replace my device with somthing of the value that the device was worth at purchase?
[16:44] (all the cash)
[16:44] if they want to replace it, they have to replace it with something that can reasonably be called a replacement
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[16:44] vi__: the price you paid
[16:44] retail value is one aspect of that
[16:45] interesting
[16:45] (the N8 is much cheaper new than an N900, the E7 is about the same price)
[16:45] but features are also of import
[16:45] what if I purchased the device second hand?
[16:45] I would take on with an E7 but never an N8
[16:45] if you bought the N900 because it has maemo, a non-maemo device is not a replacement
[16:45] they can send me an n950 if they want
[16:45] chem|st: yeah right…
[16:45] vi__, you’d need to check whether the warranty transferred
[16:46] chem|st: i did, didn’t solve the problem. but before reflashing i’ve to find its problem and solve that, cause if i install multiboot after reflashing, this problem may be seen again
[16:46] in the UK, SoGA covers second-hand goods, so it just changes who you contact
[16:46] lupine_85: Commercial second hand sale
[16:46] TimmyT: it will be seen again!
[16:46] I *believe* nokia’s 2-year limited european warranty is transferrable
[16:46] SoGA==sale of goods act?
[16:46] I might be wrong there
[16:46] ja
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[16:46] life is easier if you can go solely on the terms of the warranty nokia offer
[16:46] so how to solve it?
[16:46] because then everything is on a single piece of paper that you both agreed to
[16:47] SoGA covers the contract made with the person you bought the phone from
[16:47] i just need a shell access to the root
[16:47] which is different to nokia corporation (who the warranty is with) most of the time
[16:47] TimmyT: some of us in here are so fed up with this topic you can call yourself lucky I talk to you about it, go to tmo and look for multiboot I am sure this is documented somewhere
[16:49] lupine_85: in some cases the warranty is with the distributor and not the company, in that case you need to go to the shop you bought it from
[16:49] chem|st, I guess it differs from jurisdiction to jurisdiction
[16:49] in my case, my N900 came with a warranty sheet with nokia corp’s finland address on it
[16:49] it was nice and clear cut
[16:50] lol now you need a jailbreaked iphone to get a SSL security-patch^^
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[16:50] lupine_85: that’s for nokia I know but you wrote so «in-general» I had to negate
[16:51] good catch then. s/nokia/the company your warranty is with/
[16:52] lupine_85: you can have an extended warranty with your retailer too…
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[16:52] sure, but anyone who buys one of those is probably on crack
[16:52] s/can/may/
[16:52] <+infobot> chem|st meant: lupine_85: you may have an extended warranty with your retailer too…
[16:52] at least in the UK
[16:52] I have insurance with my retailer, and SoGA applies to the contract between me and my retailer
[16:52] chem|st: on some stuff it’s worth it
[16:53] the only warranty I have is with nokia
[16:53] chem|st: i know somebody who had dell laptop with one of those
[16:53] well 100€ for 5y warranty sounds not that bad does it? the evil thing is they want to sell your soul to some insurance company too…
[16:53] how to mount mmcblk0p2 in the terminal of android?
[16:53] chem|st: she had laptop fixed like 5 times
[16:53] chem|st: after 5th time they gave her ВЈ400 voucher to buy new laptop
[16:53] chem|st, I’m already covered against engineering faults for up to 6 years for free
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