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		<description><![CDATA[[17:24] may I see? 03[17:24] * RendW (~rend@nat/ibm/x-bcsrlzxeokehmccm) has joined #css [17:24] sure, let me just save this example [17:24] http://jsfiddle.net/q2Can/ [17:25] what I&#8217;m tring is the select.ss{width: 77px;word-wrap: break-word;} 02[17:26] * bl4ckcomb (~dennis@213.152.176.192) Quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 03[17:26] * EvilPenguin&#124; (~EvilPengu@206.169.57.98) has joined #css 03[17:27] * Sefyroth (~Sefyroth@c-76-19-144-178.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) has joined #css 02[17:27] * [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[17:24] <mjolk> may I see?
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<p>[17:24] <kriss-|-> sure, let me just save this example
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<p>[17:24] <kriss-|-> http://jsfiddle.net/q2Can/
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<p>[17:25] <kriss-|-> what I&#8217;m tring is the select.ss{width: 77px;word-wrap: break-word;}
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<p>[17:33] <michelem> I don&#8217;t get why styling &laquo;p&raquo; all article items get padded, ul included.
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<p>[17:34] <mjolk> michelem, user style sheet from browser
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<p>[17:34] <mjolk> kriss last i checked, doing wordwrap in select is hell
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<p>[17:35] <kriss-|-> i was hoping not to use other methods wich might require more resources
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<p>[17:35] <mjolk> michelem, you could do a body,div,p,ul{ margin:0 padding: 0; }
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<p>[17:35] <michelem> mjolk: can I rely on it?
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<p>[17:36] <michelem> that&#8217;s actually what I want
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<p>[17:36] <mjolk> um, no, the browser is doing a quirks kind of thing unless you tell it not to
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<p>[17:36] <michelem> I have &laquo;article&raquo; containing &laquo;header&raquo; and some other content. I want to pad the content, but not the header. So I can&#8217;t pad &laquo;article&raquo;
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<p>[17:36] <mjolk> don&#8217;t rely on user browsers to all do the same padding when unspecified
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<p>[17:36] <mjolk> link to what you have so far michaelr
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<p>[17:36] <mjolk> err. michelem
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<p>[17:38] <davock> Hello
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<p>[17:38] <mjolk> Hey davock
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<p>[17:38] <michelem> mjolk: http://www.webdevout.net/test?0S   (relevant CSS starts from &laquo;section#intro&raquo;)
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<p>[17:38] <davock> I would like to know what is the best way to deal with CSS on mobile web development
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<p>[17:39] <davock> any idea?
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<p>[17:39] <mjolk> &#8230;that&#8217;s a big question davock
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<p>[17:39] <mjolk> more specifically, what do you mean?
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<p>[17:40] <davock> ok, being more specific:   Is there any standard with crossplatform approach to include css on mobile dev .. and is there any restricion on css styling in mobile web dev?
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<p>[17:40] <riven> `g there is no mobile web
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<p>[17:40] <rivvles> Google says &laquo;There is no Mobile Web | The Haystack.&raquo; вЂў http://www.the-haystack.com/2011/01/07/there-is-no-mobile-web/ вЂў More results: http://goo.gl/tQ4Vu
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<p>[17:40] <davock> i&#8217;m just starting with this
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<p>[17:40] <mjolk> davock: do you know which browsers you want to target?  what&#8217;s the minimum support you&#8217;re doing for browsers, etc
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<p>[17:41] <kriss-|-> how about overflow outside of screen area; can i do something with that ?
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<p>[17:41] <davock> what i want is to give a crossplatform styling, no matter if its very simple
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<p>[17:41] <mjolk> Kriss-|-, on your select elements??
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<p>[17:41] <kriss-|-> yes
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<p>[17:41] <mjolk> davock: so do a simple layout and then test
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<p>[17:42] <davock> I don&#8217;t have each emulator for testing, I just want to know if there is any guide about what things don&#8217;t work on mobile
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<p>[17:42] <mjolk> Kriss-|-, ehh, i think you may want to rethink your &laquo;book in an &#8216;</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[02[11:50] * JoeGazz84 (~JoeGazz84@sumovolunteers.org) Quit (Excess Flood) 03[11:52] * Lunamon (~Tsuki@unaffiliated/lunamon) has joined #defocus 03[11:52] * eir sets mode: +v Lunamon 02[11:53] * +DarkToagac (~no@unaffiliated/toagac) Quit (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) [11:54] sweet 03[11:54] * Dudley-puppy (~Dudley-pu@82.132.248.129) has joined #defocus [11:54] someone knocking on my door *ignores it* [11:56] why? 02[11:56] * +ssquirrel (~squirrel@nvita.org) Quit (Ping [...]]]></description>
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<p>[11:54] <+gry> sweet
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<p>[11:54] <+orbit> someone knocking on my door *ignores it*
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<p>[11:56] <+gry> why?
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<p>[11:57] <+orbit> why are they knocking? no idae
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<p>06[11:57] * +lime wonders why orbit doesn&#8217;t open, been knocking on the door for ages..
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<p>[11:57] <+orbit> not expecting anyone, not going to see who it is
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<p>[11:57] <+orbit> can only be a solicitor
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<p>[11:57] <+lime> <img src='http://redlionbar.ru/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />
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<p>[11:57] <+orbit> lime: if you knew me, you&#8217;d have rung my mobile #.
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<p>06[11:58] * +noms pokes orbit
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<p>[11:58] <+orbit> with your caller-id unblocked.
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<p>[11:58] <+lime> good point, i guess
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<p>[11:58] <+orbit> Amanda Seyfried is quite cute.
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<p>[11:58] <+noms> orbit: Answer your door already, it&#8217;s cold out here.
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<p>06[11:58] * +enchilado knocks louder
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<p>[11:59] <+orbit> i imagine they&#8217;ll be gone by now.
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<p>[11:59] <+noms> There are like, 5 of us out here now.
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<p>[11:59] <+lime> at least
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<p>[12:00] <+lime> a few more people and it could be classified as a zombie attack
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<p>[12:00] <+noms> If we all make shuffling noises and drawn out moaning sounds, I think we can pass it off.
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<p>[12:00] <+lime> good idea
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<p>06[12:01] * +lime huffs and puffs
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<p>[12:01] <+enchilado> braaaaiiins
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<p>03[12:02] * eir sets mode: +v savr
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<p>[12:03] <+orbit> enchilado: how shallow.
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<p>[12:04] <+savr> lets do the chicken dance!
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<p>[12:04] <+orbit> al you want me for is my brains
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<p>[12:04] <+orbit> dont my looks mean anything? <img src='http://redlionbar.ru/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' />
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<p>06[12:04] * +orbit sulks
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<p>[12:04] <+lime> depends
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<p>[12:04] <+savr> o-|<
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<p>[12:04] <+lime> it&#8217;s hard to tell through a locked door
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<p>[12:04] <+savr> o-\<
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<p>06[12:04] * +lime does the melbourne shuffle
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<p>[12:04] <+savr> o-/<
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<p>[12:05] <+savr> o-><
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<p>[12:05] <+savr> o-|<
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<p>[12:05] <+gry> &#8230;
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<p>06[12:05] * +orbit removes her shoes
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<p>06[12:05] * +orbit wiggles her toes
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<p>06[12:06] * +gry knocks on orbit&#8217;s door
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<p>[12:06] <+gry> how many of us are there now?
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<p>06[12:06] * +orbit shrugs
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<p>06[12:07] * +KindOne see&#8217;s 472 people in this channel (including the bot eir)
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<p>[12:08] <+Memphis> so maybe 7 people paying attention
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<p>[12:08] <+orbit> and 6 of them at my front door
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<p>[12:08] <+Memphis> haha?
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<p>[12:09] <+orbit> *shrug*
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<p>[12:09] <+orbit> ask them
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<p>[12:09] <+lime> true story ^
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<p>[12:09] <+enchilado> I heard something about cheesecake and coffee, you see.
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<p>[12:09] <+KindOne> 10kBps upload speed FTW
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<p>[12:09] <+orbit> KindOne: ouch :S
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<p>[12:10] <+Memphis> http://imgur.com/QRq2N
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<p>[12:10] <+Memphis> just got that captcha
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<p>[12:10] <+Memphis> how many people do they expect can actually answer that? <img src='http://redlionbar.ru/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' />
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<p>[12:10] <+lime> lol
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<p>[12:10] <+KindOne> thankfully dropbox does MD5/SHA-1 comparison against everything, so i only have to upload &laquo;custom&raquo; files that nobody else has <img src='http://redlionbar.ru/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' />
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<p>[12:10] <+lime> you don&#8217;t have the twisted E-button on your keyboard?
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<p>[12:11] <+orbit> i do.
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<p>[12:11] <+orbit> i have lots of twisted buttons
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<p>[12:11] <+lime> cool
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<p>03[12:11] * eir sets mode: +v PeanutHorst
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<p>06[12:11] * +orbit twists lime
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<p>[12:11] <+Memphis> lol
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<p>[12:12] <+Memphis> I just gave the answer as my calculator would <img src='http://redlionbar.ru/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' />
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<p>[12:12] <+cyphase> http://thewikigame.com/
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<p>06[12:12] * +lime stirs orbit
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<p>[12:12] <+Memphis> sum to infinity of 0?
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<p>[12:13] <+enchilado> W00t, we have supernet: http://www.speedtest.net/resu</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[02[11:48] * calmar (~calmar@46-127-51-134.dynamic.hispeed.ch) Quit (Quit: Lost terminal) [11:49] xargs sucks. [11:50] moving files from /tmp/ to /tmp/ sucks too. rethink your strategy. [11:51] !switch [11:51] !case [11:51] case word in pattern);; esac syntax is used to match a word against a particular pattern, and execute commands if that pattern matches. See &#8216;case word in&#8217; [...]]]></description>
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<p>[11:49] <twkm> xargs sucks.
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<p>[11:50] <twkm> moving files from /tmp/ to /tmp/ sucks too.  rethink your strategy.
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<p>[11:51] <noc_> !switch
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<p>[11:51] <noc_> !case
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<p>[11:51] <greybot> case word in pattern);; esac syntax is used to match a word against a particular pattern, and execute commands if that pattern matches. See &#8216;case word in&#8217; in man bash | http://wiki.bash-hackers.org/syntax/ccmd/case
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<p>[11:55] <lordDoskias> !paste
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<p>[11:55] <noc_> what&#8217;s the statement in bash that goes to the next loop iteration? continue or next?
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<p>[11:55] <greybot> Please don&#8217;t waste our time by making us go to a pastebin just for a five-line snippet. Paste it in the channel. If you have a larger script that&#8217;s showing problems, trim it down to the bare minimum size that still shows the problem. You&#8217;ll probably fix it yourself once you do that.
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<p>[11:56] <lordDoskias> noc_, continue
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<p>[11:56] <noc_> spank you sir
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<p>[11:56] <lordDoskias> if [[ $readtype == "-shortPaired" ]]; then
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<p>[11:56] <lordDoskias>         if [[ $filetype == "-fasta.gz" || $filetype == "-fastq.gz" ]]; then
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<p>[11:56] <lordDoskias>                  splitoutput=$(echo $source | tr &laquo;,&raquo; &laquo;\n&raquo;)
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<p>[11:56] <lordDoskias>                  filetype=$(echo $filetype | awk &#8216;sub(&laquo;.gz$&raquo;, &laquo;&raquo;)&#8217;)
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<p>[11:56] <lordDoskias>                  for x in $splitoutput
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<p>[11:56] <lordDoskias>                   gunzip $x
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<p>[11:56] <lordDoskias>                   processed+=$(ls $x | awk &#8216;sub(&laquo;.gz$&raquo;, &laquo;&raquo;)&#8217;)
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<p>[11:56] <lordDoskias>                  done
</p>
<p>[11:56] <lordDoskias>         fi
</p>
<p>[11:56] <lordDoskias>         if [[ $filetype == "-fasta"  ]]; then
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<p>[11:57] <lordDoskias>           /home/ec2-user/binaries/shuffleSequences_fasta.pl processed[0] processed[1] MERGED.fasta
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<p>[11:57] <lordDoskias>         elif [[ $filetype == "-fastq" ]]; then
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<p>[11:57] <lordDoskias>           /home/ec2-user/binaries/shuffleSequences_fasta.pl processed[0] processed[1] MERGED.fastq
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<p>[11:57] <lordDoskias>         fi
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<p>[11:57] <snappy> stop.
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<p>[11:57] <lordDoskias> fi
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<p>[11:57] <lordDoskias> ?
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<p>[11:57] <noc_> /topic
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<p>[11:57] <noc_> hey why isn&#8217;t there a pastebin in the topic?
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<p>[11:57] <noc_> meh
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<p>[11:57] <lordDoskias> i read the topic
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<p>[11:57] <lordDoskias> that;s why i posted in the channel
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<p>[11:57] <tmr> Because not everyone likes pastebins.
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<p>[11:58] <koala_man> you really weren&#8217;t able to find a pastebin of your own?
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<p>[11:58] <noc_> well I&#8217;m pretty sure everyone hates people who paste into channels too. so what&#8217;s the solution?
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<p>[11:58] <lordDoskias> http://pastebin.com/faFrh0E3
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<p>[11:58] <lordDoskias> scripts/merge_step: line 22: syntax error near unexpected token `gunzip&#8217;
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<p>[11:58] <lordDoskias> scripts/merge_step: line 22: `            gunzip $x&#8217;
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<p>[11:58] <tmr> I guess I&#8217;m not part of everyone then.
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<p>[11:58] <lordDoskias> this is the error i get
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<p>[11:59] <lordDoskias> and i have no clue why
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<p>[11:59] <noc_> you know what I mean, people in here complain about pastebins, don&#8217;t recommend one in the topic or channel message, and then when you paste 10 lines into the channel you&#8217;ll get yelled on for that too.
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<p>[11:59] <geirha> LordDoskias: Your for is missing a do
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<p>[12:00] <geirha> !quotes > LordDoskias
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<p>[12:00] <greybot> LordDoskias: &laquo;USE MORE QUOTES!&raquo; They are vital. Also, learn the difference between &#8216; and &raquo; and `. See <http://mywiki.wooledge.org/Quotes> and <http://wiki.bash-hackers.org/syntax/words>.
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<p>[12:00] <geirha> !ls > LordDoskias
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<p>[12:00] <greybot> LordDoskias: ls shows you a representation of files. They are NOT file names (for simple names, they mostly happen to be equivalent). Do NOT try to parse it. http://mywiki.wooledge.org/ParsingLs
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<p>[12:00] <tmr> And use array instead of string (splitoutput).
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<p>[12:01] <lordDoskias> i&#8217;ll be back in an hour
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<p>[12:02] <lordDoskias> anyway
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<p>[12:02] <lordDoskias> i thought that this is actually an array
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<p>[12:03] <lordDoskias> or should i change that to += ?
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<p>[12:03] <geirha> strings don&#8217;t magically turn into arr</p>
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<p>[13:43] <docScrutinizer> MohammadAG: http://superuser.com/questions/244245/how-do-i-get-apache-to-follow-symlinks
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<p>[18:42] <ilhamiD> Hehe forget it. I will get help somewhere else where there arent arrogant people <img src='http://redlionbar.ru/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' />
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<p>03[16:29] * Topic is &#8216;Cascading Style Sheets: Useful material and specs: http://www.w3.org/Style/CSS/ | IE Problems: specify VERSION | Validate first: http://xrl.us/j37y | Always have a URI вЂ” Paste FULL code: http://webdevout.net/test | No tables for layout: http://xrl.us/kd35 | Freelancers: #css-lance | Auch #css.de&#8217;
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<dlefinc> how do i do round corners with css?
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<dlefinc> like rounded borders, or rounded table edges..
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<p>[16:34] <youknowho> border-radius: 15px
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<p>[16:38] <sjuxax> Hello. Suppose I have a layout where content is horizontally centered, but element paneling/backgrounds extend across the entirety of the page. How can I implement this reliably without background-image? So far the best strategy I have is to add padding-left.
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<dlefinc> youknowho: thanks a bunch
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<p>[16:40] <radio23> `live @ sjuxax
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<p>[16:40] <rivvles> sjuxax, Always provide a link to a *live* page or pared-down testcase so we can see the problem in action. Looking at code alone usually isn&#8217;t very effective. Also see `paste and `testcase.
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<p>[16:40] <youknowho> DLEFINC: np.. i just put in &laquo;round corners css&raquo; in google and it came up with a very informative page. http://www.css3.info/preview/rounded-border/
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<p>[16:41] <sjuxax> radio23: Thanks, but the test case wouldn&#8217;t demonstrate the problem since it&#8217;s not implemented yet, or wouldn&#8217;t be implemented correctly. I will make an image that shows what it would look like
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<p>[16:41] <radio23> durre: Inspecting the element there is a huge margin on the top but I can&#8217;t see what is causing that and there&#8217;s nothing going on with any sort of inheretence I can see.  I cleared a lot of code and there&#8217;s still a space above.  It&#8217;s baffling.
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<dlefinc> youknowho: thanks again <img src='http://redlionbar.ru/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />
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<p>[16:43] <kapowaz> hey. I&#8217;m having some trouble with -webkit-border-image and was wondering if anyone had experienced the issue I&#8217;m encountering and if there&#8217;s an obvious solution.
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<dlefinc> can i do mouse over effects with css?
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<p>[18:19] <qwerty57> :hover
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<p>[18:22] <axle3d> is there a program that can show an overview layout of a sites
<div> tags and their id/classes? kind of visualizing the html div markup
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<p>[18:24] <radio23> axle3d: Not that I know of.
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<dlefinc> axle3d: i use google chrome
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<dlefinc> right click in the page, click inspect element
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<p>[18:26] <axle3d> DLEFINC: not that, i want a generated view of just divs (with borders)
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<dlefinc> oh oh, like a Development enviroment..
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<p>[18:27] <qwerty57> try chrome extensions
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<p>[18:27] <qwerty57> i saw something similar in IE development tools
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<p>[18:27] <axle3d> Am sure that there must be a prog that does that
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<p>[18:27] <qwerty57> https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/bfbameneiokkgbdmiekhjnmfkcnldhhm
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<p>[18:27] <qwerty57> try this
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<p>[18:33] <axle3d> qwerty57: thats good mate, now is there anyway to &laquo;outline block level elements&raquo; without the content? so that am left with only boxes
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<p>[18:35] <ilhamiD> Hey
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<p>[18:35] <magistr> hi to all
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<p>[18:36] <magistr> where i can see all -webkit default styles?
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<p>[18:37] <ilhamiD> I need help with something :S
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<p>[18:37] <ilhamiD> but I&#8217;m afraid to ask here because you will probably make fun of me like last time&#8230;
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<p>[18:37] <magistr> for example h3 {
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<p>[18:37] <magistr> display: block;
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<p>[18:37] <magistr> font-size: 1.17em;
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<p>[18:37] <magistr> -webkit-margin-before: 1em;
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<p>[18:37] <magistr> -webkit-margin-after: 1em;
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<p>[18:37] <magistr> -webkit-margin-start: 0px;
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<p>[18:37] <magistr> -webkit-margin-end: 0px;
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<p>[18:38] <magistr> font-weight: bold;
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<p>[18:38] <magistr> }
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<p>[18:38] <radio23> magistr: Don&#8217;t paste in the channel like that.
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<p>[18:38] <radio23> magistr: You can find what you&#8217;re looking for with a simple search on the net.
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<p>[18:38] <magistr> sorry
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<p>[18:38] <radio23> IlhamiD: Grow thicker skin.
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		<title>s and regretting it</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2012 01:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[03[18:08] * lardman is now known as lardman&#124;afk [18:08] is it possible to make a raw image from rootsh? 02[18:08] * vi__ (~user@proxy.edinst.com) Quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 03[18:09] * Necc (~user@n1gxsu6vsp.adsl.datanet.hu) has joined #maemo [18:09] TimmyT: (everyone there are died,) ponder why! ;-P 03[18:09] * GuySoft (~guysoft@109.226.6.133) has joined #maemo [18:09] raw image from [...]]]></description>
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<p>[18:08] <timmyT> is it possible to make a raw image from rootsh?
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<p>[18:09] <docScrutinizer> TimmyT: (everyone there are died,) ponder why! ;-P
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<psycho_oreos> raw image from rootsh = no, not without a custom kernel, custom boot command and extensive re-working on various userland tools to get it all working
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<p>[18:09] <docScrutinizer> TimmyT: not exactly, but you can use awesome backupmenu app to do raw images
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<p>[18:10] <timmyT> tnx
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<p>[18:10] <docScrutinizer> all hail to robbiethe1st
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<psycho_oreos> the current backupmenu doesn&#8217;t do raw images, it just creates tarball because raw images doesn&#8217;t work well with bad PEB afaik
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<p>[18:10] <docScrutinizer> yup
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<p>[18:10] <docScrutinizer> indeed
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<p>[18:11] <timmyT> i&#8217;m recharging the phone to reflash it again,
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<p>[18:11] <chem|st> good boy <img src='http://redlionbar.ru/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />
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<p>[18:11] <merlin1991> I remember a blogpost about going images with fiasco-gen for instantbackuping
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<p>[18:11] <merlin1991> s/going/doing/
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<p>[18:11] <+infobot> merlin1991 meant: I remember a blogpost about doing images with fiasco-gen for instantbackuping
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<psycho_oreos> and yes +1 to robbiethe1st. Genuine lifesaver to the rather defunct osso-backup which is only useful if you&#8217;re in utopian land
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<p>[18:11] <timmyT> you have any idea about installing meego on internal storage?
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<p>[18:12] <docScrutinizer> but you now have a shell in BUM, so you *could* use flash* tools
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<p>[18:12] <merlin1991> TimmyT: I read that it&#8217;s actually slower than on sd o_O
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<p>[18:12] <chem|st> TimmyT: wrong channel
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<p>[18:12] <merlin1991> TimmyT: #meego-arm might be more helpfull
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<p>[18:12] <docScrutinizer> psycho_oreos: ack
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<p>[18:13] <timmyT> before i asked questions there, but kids of this channel were answering there too !
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<p>[18:13] <docScrutinizer> TimmyT: try uSD first, then ask e.g. MohammadAG when he&#8217;s around. He did it
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<psycho_oreos> DocScrutinizer, ack as in acknowledged? <img src='http://redlionbar.ru/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />
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<p>[18:14] <docScrutinizer> yup
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<p>[18:14] <docScrutinizer> re raw image, shell in BUM:
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<p>[18:14] <docScrutinizer> IroN900:~# mtd_debug &#8211;help
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<p>[18:14] <docScrutinizer> usage: mtd_debug info <device>
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<p>[18:14] <docScrutinizer>        mtd_debug read <device> <offset> <len> <dest-filename>
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<p>[18:14] <docScrutinizer>        mtd_debug write <device> <offset> <len> <source-filename>
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<p>[18:14] <docScrutinizer>        mtd_debug erase <device> <offset> <len>
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<p>[18:15] <docScrutinizer> for NAND
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<p>[18:15] <docScrutinizer> for eMMC things are rather trivial
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<p>[18:16] <docScrutinizer> as there&#8217;s no OOB
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<p>[18:16] <docScrutinizer> i.e. no handling of bad blocks needed
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<p>[18:16] <docScrutinizer> eMMC controlled does that transparently
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		<title>sumer protection. poor sods)</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[[16:43] lupine_85: if a company is obliged to replace a failed device within the 2 year period, are they allowed to take into account the deppreciation of said device? [16:43] vi__: nope [16:44] of course not [16:44] the EU legislation states they have to bring the product back into conformity [16:44] only insurance companies do [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[16:43] <vi__> lupine_85: if a company is obliged to replace a failed device within the 2 year period, are they allowed to take into account the deppreciation of said device?
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<p>[16:43] <chem|st> vi__: nope
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<p>[16:44] <lupine_85> of course not
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<p>[16:44] <lupine_85> the EU legislation states they have to bring the product back into conformity
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<p>[16:44] <chem|st> only insurance companies do and I am not sure if that is legal either
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<p>[16:44] <lupine_85> they can do that with a repair or by replacing the whole thing or by giving you the cash
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<p>[16:44] <vi__> so they have to replace my device with somthing of the value that the device was worth at purchase?
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<p>[16:44] <lupine_85> (all the cash)
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<p>[16:44] <lupine_85> if they want to replace it, they have to replace it with something that can reasonably be called a replacement
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<p>[16:44] <chem|st> vi__: the price you paid
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<p>[16:44] <lupine_85> retail value is one aspect of that
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<p>[16:45] <vi__> interesting
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<p>[16:45] <lupine_85> (the N8 is much cheaper new than an N900, the E7 is about the same price)
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<p>[16:45] <lupine_85> but features are also of import
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<p>[16:45] <vi__> what if I purchased the device second hand?
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<p>[16:45] <chem|st> I would take on with an E7 but never an N8
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<p>[16:45] <lupine_85> if you bought the N900 because it has maemo, a non-maemo device is not a replacement
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<p>[16:45] <chem|st> they can send me an n950 if they want
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<p>[16:45] <vi__> chem|st: yeah right&#8230;
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<p>[16:45] <lupine_85> vi__, you&#8217;d need to check whether the warranty transferred
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<p>[16:46] <timmyT> chem|st: i did, didn&#8217;t solve the problem. but before reflashing i&#8217;ve to find its problem and solve that, cause if i install multiboot after reflashing, this problem may be seen again
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<p>[16:46] <lupine_85> in the UK, SoGA covers second-hand goods, so it just changes who you contact
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<p>[16:46] <speedEvil> lupine_85: Commercial second hand sale
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<p>[16:46] <chem|st> TimmyT: it will be seen again!
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<p>[16:46] <lupine_85> I *believe* nokia&#8217;s 2-year limited european warranty is transferrable
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<p>[16:46] <vi__> SoGA==sale of goods act?
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<p>[16:46] <lupine_85> I might be wrong there
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<p>[16:46] <lupine_85> ja
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<p>[16:46] <lupine_85> life is easier if you can go solely on the terms of the warranty nokia offer
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<p>[16:46] <timmyT> so how to solve it?
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<p>[16:46] <lupine_85> because then everything is on a single piece of paper that you both agreed to
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<p>[16:47] <lupine_85> SoGA covers the contract made with the person you bought the phone from
</p>
<p>[16:47] <timmyT> i just need a shell access to the root
</p>
<p>[16:47] <lupine_85> which is different to nokia corporation (who the warranty is with) most of the time
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<p>[16:47] <chem|st> TimmyT: some of us in here are so fed up with this topic you can call yourself lucky I talk to you about it, go to tmo and look for multiboot I am sure this is documented somewhere
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<p>[16:49] <chem|st> lupine_85: in some cases the warranty is with the distributor and not the company, in that case you need to go to the shop you bought it from
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<p>[16:49] <lupine_85> chem|st, I guess it differs from jurisdiction to jurisdiction
</p>
<p>[16:49] <lupine_85> in my case, my N900 came with a warranty sheet with nokia corp&#8217;s finland address on it
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<p>[16:49] <lupine_85> it was nice and clear cut
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<p>[16:50] <chem|st> lol now you need a jailbreaked iphone to get a SSL security-patch^^
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<p>[16:50] <chem|st> lupine_85: that&#8217;s for nokia I know but you wrote so &laquo;in-general&raquo; I had to negate
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<p>[16:51] <lupine_85> good catch then. s/nokia/the company your warranty is with/
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<p>[16:52] <chem|st> lupine_85: you can have an extended warranty with your retailer too&#8230;
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<p>[16:52] <lupine_85> sure, but anyone who buys one of those is probably on crack
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<p>[16:52] <chem|st> s/can/may/
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<p>[16:52] <+infobot> chem|st meant: lupine_85: you may have an extended warranty with your retailer too&#8230;
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<p>[16:52] <lupine_85> at least in the UK
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<p>[16:52] <lupine_85> I have insurance with my retailer, and SoGA applies to the contract between me and my retailer
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<p>[16:52] <jacekowski> chem|st: on some stuff it&#8217;s worth it
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<p>[16:53] <lupine_85> the only warranty I have is with nokia
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<p>[16:53] <jacekowski> chem|st: i know somebody who had dell laptop with one of those
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<p>[16:53] <chem|st> well 100в‚¬ for 5y warranty sounds not that bad does it? the evil thing is they want to sell your soul to some insurance company too&#8230;
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<p>[16:53] <timmyT> how to mount mmcblk0p2 in the terminal of android?
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<p>[16:53] <jacekowski> chem|st: she had laptop fixed like 5 times
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<p>[16:53] <jacekowski> chem|st: after 5th time they gave her ВЈ400 voucher to buy new laptop
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<p>[16:53] <lupine_85> chem|st, I&#8217;m already covered against engineering faults for up to 6 years for free
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<p>[16:52] <rgr> radio23: worked great. thanks. wish someone could go and delete the rest of the incorrect crap laying around the web <img src='http://redlionbar.ru/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />
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<p>[17:24] <djsounds02> Hello!
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<p>06[17:25] * radio23 cues another muzak 12&#8243;
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<p>[17:26] <djsounds02> Anyone spare 5minutes, Css Drop down nav
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<p>[17:26] <rgr> just ask your q
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<p>06[17:27] * radio23 lets rip with another banging old-school muzak classic
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<p>[17:27] <djsounds02> http://www.marsdenparkgolfcourse.co.uk/wordpress/ This nav as you can see is supposed to be a drop down nav its not working very well, anyone advise on a few improvements
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<p>[17:29] <rgr> the css is all over the place. the ul width for the drop downs in over 900 px for a start
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<p>[17:29] <rgr> (.sub-access)
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<p>[17:29] <radio23> djsounds02: Instead, I&#8217;m going to direct you to the &#8216;holy grail&#8217; of CSS menus.  http://www.cssplay.co.uk/menus/  I hate trying to figure out the problems of people&#8217;s crappy code.  It&#8217;s better if you start over with that.
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<p>[17:30] <rgr> getting to it from #accss ul
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<p>[17:30] <rgr> radio23: oh wow. What a page.
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<p>[17:31] <djsounds02> yes its inheriting from access
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<p>[17:31] <djsounds02> the css isnt that far off
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		<title>ion menu (3 items), right column has text describing them.</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[[16:31] So, your question is? 02[16:31] * pen_ (~pen@dhcp1.csie.ntu.edu.tw) Quit (Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.) [16:31] if I use &#171;float: right&#187; for the 2nd I lose the block property, and the footer is displayed over my block [16:32] my question is what&#8217;s the best way to do this 03[16:32] * fleeting (~fleeting@rrcs-67-79-88-162.sw.biz.rr.com) has joined [...]]]></description>
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<p>[16:31] <michelem> if I use &laquo;float: right&raquo; for the 2nd I lose the block property, and the footer is displayed over my block
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<p>[16:32] <michelem> my question is what&#8217;s the best way to do this
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<p>[16:33] <michelem> at the moment the markup has the contents (right block) as<br />
<article id="name"> and the titles as<br />
<header>s inside them
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<p>[16:33] <riven> you only need to float your left column left (and clear the footer)
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<p>[16:33] <kolakCC> `css bfc @ michelem # This could be what you&#8217;re looking for, otherwise, testcase please.
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<p>[16:33] <rivvles> michelem, CSS Block Formatting Context explained: http://colinaarts.com/articles/the-magic-of-overflow-hidden/. Spec: http://www.w3.org/TR/CSS21/visuren.html#block-formatting
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<p>[16:33] <kolakCC> erg. nvm
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<p>[16:33] <riven> OR you can ^ do that, but it&#8217;s not necessary.
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<p>[16:34] <kolakCC> riven&#8217;s is better. I try to avoid clear, for some reason
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<p>[16:34] <riven> Well, it might be &#8211; depends on your design, really
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<p>[16:34] <johnline3> asl + pix for extra css help
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<p>[16:34] <vaerros> wow
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<p>[16:34] <kolakCC> In other words, url please!
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<p>[16:42] <oni`> 
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<p>[16:42] <michelem> http://www.webdevout.net/test?0Q
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<p>[16:43] <michelem> in the section#services , each enclosed<br />
<article> should show up as a block on the right side, while their<br />
<header>s should show up on the left.
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<p>[16:44] <kolakCC> gg, relative style sheets
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<p>[16:44] <michelem> relative?
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<p>[16:45] <kolakCC>
<link href="/static/style/new/services.css" rel="stylesheet" /> -> the stylesheets aren&#8217;t hosted on webdevout.
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<p>[16:45] <michelem> ah, linked. The content that matters is pasted. I can paste all though.
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<p>[16:46] <johnline3> http://www.angelfire.com/super/badwebs/
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<p>[16:46] <johnline3> :&#8217;>
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<p>[16:46] <michelem> http://www.webdevout.net/test?0R
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<p>[16:47] <kolakCC> That.. wasn&#8217;t really the point
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<p>[16:47] <michelem> I don&#8217;t get the point then <img src='http://redlionbar.ru/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />
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<p>[16:52] <michelem> http://tinypic.com/r/2zrlwyx/7
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<p>[16:53] <michelem> this is the layout I want. I wonder if that markup permits that in the first place
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<p>[16:54] <xec> are there any (noteworthy) broswers that doesn&#8217;t support colors in rgb(&#8230;) format?
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<p>[16:54] <xec> browsers*
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<p>[16:54] <zombieLoffe> no.
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<p>[16:54] <zombieLoffe> rgba(), however, is unsupported in IE</p>
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